Traxxas Slash 4x4 running with actual race trucks it was definitely the underdog it's the high cg chassis all stock besides body springs and tires I'm going to get the strc low cg conversion the stock setup is absolutely horrible for racing traction roles are always one hair away now if your just cruising at your own pace it's alot of fun but when you push it to hard which isn't that hard at all you'll be pretty annoyed great for bashing or just driving at your own pase but if you want to race and be competitive get something that fits the job description