Unfortunately the FT Mini Arrow is much too loud with motor to fly it at my club. So I threw out the motor and tried it in the dunes. For some funny reason now the CG is way back after the recommended marks! These flights were with battery way back and I still had to pull almost full up elevator to stay in the air. Wind was in higher 4 Bft. I now even threw out all the lead I did put in as nose weight and gave more up elevator with the servo rod, so now it slopes quite nicely