http://www.infoq.com/interviews/coplien-martin-tdd
Bob Martin is also known as Uncle Bob. He is an Agile Manifesto author, and author of books on Agile Programming, XP, UML, Object Oriented Programming, and C++.
Jim Coplien is a software pioneer in Object Oriented programming and C++ and multi-paradigm design. He is also co-author of DCI paradigm.
Debate sprang up at JAOO '07 around Bob Martin's assertion that "nowadays it is irresponsible for a developer to ship a line of code he has not executed in a unit test." In this InfoQ video, he debated with Jim Coplien on this and other topics, including Design by Contract vs. TDD and how much up-front architecture is needed to keep a system consistent with the business domain model.
See full transcription here
http://www.toalexsmail.com/2012/10/tdd.html
